We gave this one a try and it wasn’t bad! It hadn’t occurred to me to use potato chips instead of bread crumbs or tomato soup instead of catsup! Mine fit into a loaf pan well - I only used one pound of ground beef for this test! I personally like to blend my veggies (celery and onion in this case) in a food processor and cook them a little in a pan before adding them to the meat mixture. I think it tastes better that way!